SMC/AtomicChilluIsUnacceptable: Difference between revisions

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a) വന്‍യവനിക/വന്യവനിക (vanYavanika/vanyavanika), കണ്‍വലയം/കണ്വലയം (kanvalayam/kanualayam) ... contrived examples not found in dictionary

b) ആ ~~മനുഷൃന്‍~~ കൊടുക്കുന്നു (that man is giving)

b) ആ മനുഷ്യന്‍ കൊടുക്കുന്നു (that man is giving)

ആ ~~മനുഷൃനു്~~ കൊടുക്കുന്നു (giving to the man)

ആ മനുഷ്യനു് കൊടുക്കുന്നു (giving to the man)

as per malayalam lingustic rules the sentence is a mistake.

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4. Since the joiners has to be supported for backward compatibility it creates unnecessary complexity to all text processing application (sorting, searching) and it makes atomic chillus redundant and useless.

5. ~~Why isn't~~ a canonical equivalence to old ~~sequences~~ not provided?

5. As per the uncode stability policy, the existing chillu sequence has to be supported. In that case, inorder to process the text with atomic chillu and exiting chillu, there should be a canonical equivalence to old sequence. It is not provided and not mentioned in Unicode 5.1 and that breaks the existing applications and data and violates unicode stability policy.

6. Even after atomic chillus are made part of the standard many words cannot be written without joiners and it would be increasing the chaos.

6. Even after atomic chillus are made part of the standard many words cannot be written without joiners and it would be increasing the chaos. Thereby the atomic chillu doesnot solve the issue of ignorability of ZWJ or ZWNJ as mentioned in the proposal to encode chillu and atomic chillu is a partial incomplete solution.

കൊയ്‌രാള (koirala), സദ്‌വാരം (sadvaram)

Eg: കൊയ്‌രാള (koirala), സദ്‌വാരം (sadvaram)

7. Using virama with chillus is linguistically incorrect (function of virama is to create vowel-less and you can't use it with a chillu or pure consonant because these are already vowel-less forms of the underlying consonants)

I strongly oppose including this characters in the standard as it not only fail to solve all the problems with joiner it creates lots of new problems and the need for providing backward compatibility will produce more chaos in encoding chillus.

We strongly oppose including this characters in the standard as it not only fail to solve all the problems with joiner it creates lots of new problems and the need for providing backward compatibility will produce more chaos in encoding chillus.

~~Praveen A~~

Swathanthara Malayalam Computing

http://www.smc.org.in

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 a) വന്‍യവനിക/വന്യവനിക (vanYavanika/vanyavanika), കണ്‍വലയം/കണ്വലയം (kanvalayam/kanualayam) ... contrived examples not found in dictionary
-b)  ആ മനുഷൃന്‍ കൊടുക്കുന്നു (that man is giving)
+b)  ആ മനുഷ്യന്‍ കൊടുക്കുന്നു (that man is giving)
-  ആ മനുഷൃനു് കൊടുക്കുന്നു (giving to the man)
+  ആ മനുഷ്യനു് കൊടുക്കുന്നു (giving to the man)
 as per malayalam lingustic rules the sentence is a mistake.
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 . Since the joiners has to be supported for backward compatibility it  creates unnecessary complexity to all text processing application (sorting, searching) and it makes atomic chillus redundant and useless.
-. Why isn't a canonical equivalence to old sequences not provided?
+. As per the uncode stability policy, the existing chillu sequence has to be supported. In that case, inorder to process the text with atomic chillu and exiting chillu, there should be  a canonical equivalence to old sequence.  It is not provided and not mentioned in Unicode 5.1 and that breaks the existing applications and data and violates unicode stability policy.
-. Even after atomic chillus are  made part of the standard many words cannot be written without joiners and it would be increasing the chaos.
+. Even after atomic chillus are  made part of the standard many words cannot be written without joiners and it would be increasing the chaos. Thereby the atomic chillu doesnot solve the issue of ignorability of ZWJ or ZWNJ as mentioned in the proposal to encode chillu and atomic chillu is a partial incomplete solution.
-കൊയ്‌രാള (koirala), സദ്‌വാരം (sadvaram)
+Eg: കൊയ്‌രാള (koirala), സദ്‌വാരം (sadvaram)
 . Using virama with chillus is linguistically incorrect (function of virama is to create vowel-less and you can't use it with a chillu or pure consonant because these are already vowel-less forms of the underlying consonants)
-I strongly oppose including this characters in the standard as it not only fail to solve all the problems with joiner it creates lots of new problems and the need for providing backward compatibility will produce more chaos in encoding chillus.
+We strongly oppose including this characters in the standard as it not only fail to solve all the problems with joiner it creates lots of new problems and the need for providing backward compatibility will produce more chaos in encoding chillus.
-Praveen A
 Swathanthara Malayalam Computing
 http://www.smc.org.in